‘It was magical and vulnerable’: Madonna on working with daughter Lourdes Leon on ‘The Test’

Lourdes Leon revealed she cried during the collaboration and said Madonna’s intimidating presence made approaching her for the project a 'no-brainer'
Lourdes Leon revealed she initiated the collaboration with Madonna, using art to express unspoken love, tension and emotions between them (Getty Images)
Lourdes Leon revealed she initiated the collaboration with Madonna, using art to express unspoken love, tension and emotions between them (Getty Images)

LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA: Madonna has shared insight into her collaboration with her daughter, Lourdes Leon, on the single ‘The Test’.

The pop icon revealed that working with her 29-year-old daughter was an emotional and vulnerable process.

Lourdes Leon opens up about collaborating with Madonna

The new song is part of Madonna’s 2026 studio album ‘CONFESSIONS II’.

To discuss the collaboration, the mother-daughter duo sat down for an interview with Bob the Drag Queen in June, offering a behind-the-scenes look at Madonna’s iHeartRadio and TikTok Live album release party in London.

Madonna and Lourdes Leon arrives at the Vanity Fair Oscar party hosted by Graydon Carter held at Sunset Tower on February 27, 2011 in West Hollywood, California.
Madonna and Lourdes Leon arrives at the Vanity Fair Oscar party hosted by Graydon Carter held at Sunset Tower on February 27, 2011 in West Hollywood, California (Getty Images)

The interview was released on Thursday, September 24, with Leon revealing that it was her idea to collaborate with her famous mother. “It was my idea. I think that between a mother and a daughter in a relationship, there’s a lot of things that are unspoken,” the young singer said, as per PEOPLE.

She continued, “There’s a lot of love that is unspoken, but also a lot of tension and emotions that are difficult to put into words,” before adding, “A way that I thought would be easier for us to speak about these things would be maybe through art, which is always something that my mom and I have connected over.”

Madonna calls collaboration with daughter Lourdes Leon ‘magical’

Agreeing with her, Madonna stated, “We don’t always agree on things, but we love creativity, and art has always connected us. It was a very magical moment, and we both had to be vulnerable."

NEW YORK, NEW YORK - SEPTEMBER 14: Madonna and Lourdes Leon attend the Tom Ford fashion show during September 2022 New York Fashion Week: The Shows at Skylight on Vesey on September 14, 2022 in New York City. (Photo by Dimitrios Kambouris/Getty Images for NYFW: The Shows )
Madonna and Lourdes Leon attend the Tom Ford fashion show during September 2022 New York Fashion Week: The Shows at Skylight on Vesey on September 14, 2022 in New York City (Dimitrios Kambouris/Getty Images for NYFW: The Shows )

The ‘Queen of Pop’ also admitted during the interview that “there were moments in the writing process when we were in the studio where I felt like crying.”

Lourdes Leon opens up about Madonna’s influence

Leon then shared that she actually cried. The dancer was also asked by Bob if she had to “build up the courage” to ask her mother to collaborate.

In response, she said, “Maybe this is gonna sound stupid, but she’s a very intimidating person, and I have found that I’m not intimidated by many people as a result of her being my mom.”

The ‘Popular’ singer then added, “Kind of a no-brainer.”

Madonna attends the 2026 Met Gala celebrating 'Costume Art' at the Metropolitan Museum of Art on May 04, 2026 in New York City ( Kevin Mazur/MG26/Getty Images for The Met Museum/Vogue)
Madonna attends the 2026 Met Gala celebrating 'Costume Art' at the Metropolitan Museum of Art on May 04, 2026 in New York City (Kevin Mazur/MG26/Getty Images for The Met Museum/Vogue)

Madonna explains Lourdes Leon’s approach to her career

The new interview came after Madonna spoke with Graham Norton in June for BBC Radio 1, where she opened up about her daughter and explained why she wants Lourdes to create her own path.

“She's been very reluctant to work with me. She doesn't want to be perceived as my daughter taking advantage of her privilege. She's been very stand-offish, working at her own pace, and I respect that deeply,” she explained.

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