Elon Musk had a hand in keeping Kamala Harris off Joe Rogan’s podcast, reveals new book

A forthcoming book revealed that Kamala Harris’ campaign struggled to secure an interview with Joe Rogan during her presidential bid
PUBLISHED JAN 30, 2025
A new book claims that Elon Musk played a significant role in persuading Joe Rogan to cancel the interview with Kamala Harris (Getty Images)
A new book claims that Elon Musk played a significant role in persuading Joe Rogan to cancel the interview with Kamala Harris (Getty Images)

WASHINGTON, DC: A forthcoming book by Amie Parnes of The Hill and Jonathan Allen of NBC News reportedly contains details regarding the failed attempt by the Kamala Harris campaign to land an interview with Joe Rogan.

Moreover, the new book, 'FIGHT: Inside the Wildest Battle for the White House', has shed new light on how tech tycoon Elon Musk allegedly had a hand in Harris' failure to secure an interview with Rogan during the last stretch of her presidential campaign.

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UFC commentator Joe Rogan announces the fighters during a ceremonial weigh in for UFC 264 at T-Mobile Arena (Stacy Revere/Getty Images)

Elon Musk allegedly convinced Joe Rogan to feature Trump instead of Kamala Harris in podcast

According to the new book, Kamala Harris was scheduled to travel to Joe Rogan's studio in Austin, Texas, for an hours-long, off-limits interview in late October, but it was allegedly canceled by his staff only days before she was scheduled to arrive.

However, Rogan's crew booked Donald Trump on the same day Harris was planned to be in Texas, so the sit-down never happened.

The book claimed that Rogan's friends Musk and Ultimate Fighting Championship CEO Dana White persuaded one of the most prominent podcasters to set aside his disagreements with President Trump for an interview.

ASTON, PENNSYLVANIA - OCTOBER 23: Democratic presidential candidate, U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris speaks during a CNN Presidential Town Hall at Sun Center Studios on October 23, 2024 in Aston, Pennsylvania. With less than two weeks to Election Day, Harris spent the day in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and made a visit to Famous 4th Street Delicatessen to greet supporters. (Photo by Andrew Harnik/Getty Images)
Former US Vice President Kamala Harris speaks during a CNN Presidential Town Hall at Sun Center Studios (Andrew Harnik/Getty Images)

The three-hour podcast with Trump was well received, and snippets of their conversation went viral immediately. However, Harris was left hanging with her camp refusing to travel to Texas a second time to meet with Rogan so near to Election Day.

Furthermore, many believed that she might still triumph that weekend by having stars like Beyonce at her rally in Houston, who showed up to speak and not sing. Perhaps it did not make as big of an impact as a long, unvarnished interview with Rogan.

Elon Musk speaks during a campaign rally for Republican presidential nominee, former U.S. President Donald Trump at Madison Square Garden on October 27, 2024 in New York City. Trump closed out his weekend of campaigning in New York City with a guest list of speakers that includes his running mate Republican Vice Presidential nominee, U.S. Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH), Tesla CEO Elon Musk, UFC CEO Dana White, and House Speaker Mike Johnson, among others, nine days before Election Day. (Photo by Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)
Elon Musk speaks during a campaign rally for US President Donald Trump at Madison Square Garden (Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)

Harris' team made one last attempt to convince Rogan in the closing days of the campaign. The podcaster's crew was informed that Harris may be interviewed in Washington, DC, on Election Day eve. However, Rogan's team declined, per The Daily Beast.

According to the book, Harris’ deputy campaign manager Rob Flaherty told Rogan's allies, "You get one trip to Texas within three weeks of the election. You don’t get two."

However, Rogan put his complete support for Trump in the run-up to the election, confirming that Trump had won the Rogan war—he did with the wave of YouTubers and TikTokers he welcomed earlier than Harris during the election buildup.



 

Joe Rogan's team apparently insisted that he would only interview Kamala Harris in his studio

According to an excerpt from the book, which will be released on April 1, Kamala Harris' team made every effort to ensure that the former vice president's interview with Joe Rogan did not come across as desperate.

Rogan's team allegedly insisted that he would only interview Harris in his studio. The podcaster, who has nearly 15 million Spotify subscribers alone, had only previously gone for an interview once—in 2019 to talk with Edward Snowden, the legendary whistleblower who was wanted in the United States at the time.

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Announcer Joe Rogan reacts during UFC 249 at VyStar Veterans Memorial Arena (Douglas P DeFelice/Getty Images)

According to the book, Harris' team came up with a complex justification for her visit to a state she had no chance of winning in the last few weeks of her campaign, as she was not allowed to do an interview outside of Texas.

Harris' team decided to hold a rally in Houston on October 25 to raise awareness of abortion in a state that was and remains extremely anti-abortion.

The book asserts that the rally's real goal was to place Harris close to Rogan's studio, which is about 165 miles west of the city while trying to explain to her supporters why she traveled to Texas when she was needed in the swing states.

While the Houston event was being planned, Harris sent an advance crew to Rogan's studio. She gave her negotiating team permission to approve the interview and let Rogan know when she would be in town because she was allegedly prepared to accept Rogan's requirements.

WASHINGTON, DC - MARCH 08: U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris addresses the National League of Cities
Former US Vice President Kamala Harris addresses the National League of Cities' Congressional City Conference via video link (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

But according to reports, Rob Flaherty noticed that Rogan's camp was now speaking in a "different" tone. Those same individuals who previously shown receptive to a Rogan-Harris interview were now less enthusiastic.

According to the book, Flaherty was surprised that Rogan was not eager to interview Harris just two weeks before Election Day, particularly given how infrequently she had been in the media.

The book cited Flaherty's thoughts at the time as follows: "The vice president of the United States is offering to come to your f*****g show, and you keep putting up more hoops."

"Harris’ team still wanted to make it work, but a new wariness set in," the book continued. Four days later, an apparent answer appeared.

According to the Associated Press, Trump was scheduled to travel to Austin on October 25 for an interview with Rogan. And, Rogan's staff claimed that Trump was unavailable for the "personal day" on October 25.

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