Bill Maher confronts Lara Trump on presidential pardons and the DOJ’s pursuit of political rivals

Bill Maher questioned the pardon of Changpeng Zhao during a talk with Lara Trump, as he cited reports that alleged Zhao’s ties enriched Trump’s circle
UPDATED NOV 24, 2025
Bill Maher confronted Lara Trump about the president's allies allegedly receiving pardons and the DOJ targeting critics on an episode of his 'Club Random' podcast on Monday, November 24 (Getty Images)
Bill Maher confronted Lara Trump about the president's allies allegedly receiving pardons and the DOJ targeting critics on an episode of his 'Club Random' podcast on Monday, November 24 (Getty Images)

LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA: Bill Maher seemingly agreed that the FBI raid on Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate was "over the top," handing a rare rhetorical victory to Lara Trump during a tense debate about the weaponization of the Justice Department.

In the latest episode of his 'Club Random' podcast, released on Monday, November 24, the comedian squared off with the RNC co-chair regarding the president's use of power.

While Maher pressed Lara on controversial pardons and the targeting of political enemies, the conversation took a surprising turn when Maher admitted that the aggressive tactics used against the former president crossed a line.

Bill Maher conceded to Lara Trump that the FBI's decision to raid Mar-a-Lago was 'over the top,' validating a key complaint of the former President (Screengrab/ClubRandom/HBO)
Bill Maher agreed with Lara Trump that the FBI's decision to raid Mar-a-Lago was 'over the top', validating a key complaint of Donald Trump (Screengrab/ClubRandom/HBO)

Bill Maher grills Lara Trump on 'friend of the president' treatment

Maher opened the offensive by questioning the recent pardon of former Binance CEO Changpeng Zhao, citing a 60 Minutes report that suggested the crypto mogul had "enriched" the Trump family.

"It looks like you get one treatment if you’re a friend of the president and one treatment if you don’t," Maher charged.

The host then pivoted to the DOJ’s previous pursuit of mortgage fraud cases against Democrats like Rep Eric Swalwell (D-Calif) and New York Attorney General Letitia James.

Attorney General Letitia James speaks during a press conference following a verdict against former U.S. President Donald Trump in a civil fraud trial on February 16, 2024 in New York City. Justice Arthur Engoron ruled against the former president finding him liable for conspiring to manipulating his networth and fining him $335 million and imposing a three year ban from serving in top roles at any NY company. The judge also banned Eric and Donald Trump Jr. for two years as well as a fine of more than four million dollars. (Photo by Michael M. Santiago/Getty Images)
Attorney General Letitia James speaks during a press conference following a verdict against Donald Trump in a civil fraud trial on February 16, 2024, in New York City (Michael M Santiago/Getty Images)

Maher argued that digging into 40-year-old mortgage applications to find a "wrong box" checked was a clear example of political retribution.

"I don’t even like this guy, Congressman Eric Swalwell," Maher joked, but insisted that going after him for minor clerical errors was excessive.

"If you’re going to do that, let’s go through everybody’s mortgage loan, because I think you’ll find some people on your side who might have done that," he stated.

Lara Trump speaking during the 10X Ladies Conference Miami 2024 at JW Marriott Miami Turnberry Resort & Spa on August 16, 2024 in Aventura, Florida. (Photo by Ivan Apfel/Getty Images)
Lara Trump speaking during the 10X Ladies Conference Miami 2024 at JW Marriott Miami Turnberry Resort & Spa on August 16, 2024, in Aventura, Florida (Ivan Apfel/Getty Images)

Lara Trump defends family as most 'scrutinized' in history 

Lara Trump rejected the premise that her father-in-law was uniquely vindictive. Instead, she framed the Trump family as the true victims of a weaponized justice system.

"I can promise you this. Our family has been scrutinized, attacked, under a microscope. I would probably argue more than any family," she told Maher.



When Maher countered that scrutiny comes with the presidency, Lara argued that the aggression toward Donald Trump was unprecedented compared to his predecessors.

"They didn’t go after Obama and Clinton in an aggressive way," she noted. "When did you see Obama and Clinton’s residences, personal private property raided by the FBI? When did they have indictments against them to put them in jail for the rest of their life?"

DETROIT, MICHIGAN - OCTOBER 10: Republican presidential nominee, former U.S. President Donald Trump, speaks at the Detroit Economic Club on October 10, 2024 in Detroit, Michigan. Michigan is considered a key battleground state in the upcoming presidential election, holding 15 electoral votes. (Photo by Bill Pugliano/Getty Images)
Donald Trump speaks at the Detroit Economic Club on October 10, 2024, in Detroit, Michigan (Bill Pugliano/Getty Images)

Bill Maher claimed FBI tactics were 'over the top'

In a moment that validated long-standing complaints of Trump supporters, Maher agreed with Lara's assessment of the 2022 raid on Mar-a-Lago.

"I agree on the uh… don’t junk go into somebody’s bathroom," Maher admitted, referring to the photos of classified documents stored at the estate. "Yes, that was over the top."

Lara seized on the agreement, emphasizing, "It was a little over the top," to which Maher reiterated, "Over the top."

The Mar-a-Lago Estate, owned by Donald Trump, lies at the water's edge in Palm Beach, Florida. The mansion was built by Marjorie Merriweather Post in the 1920s. (Photo by Steve Starr/CORBIS/Corbis via Getty Images)
The Mar-a-Lago Estate, owned by Donald Trump, lies at the water's edge in Palm Beach, Florida. The mansion was built by Marjorie Merriweather Post in the 1920s (Steve Starr/CORBIS/Corbis via Getty Images)

Bill Maher claimed Trump’s '11,000 votes' call was a smoking gun 

Despite the concession, Maher tried to draw a line in the sand regarding the 2020 election.

He claimed that the reason Obama and Clinton weren't prosecuted was because they "never got on the phone and said, 'I need you to find me 11,000 votes.'"

"That is as close to a smoking gun as I can imagine," Maher insisted, warning against the US becoming "one of those South American countries" where political opponents were perpetually jailed.

However, Lara stood her ground, maintaining that the relentless pursuit of her family - from raids to indictments - was a unique chapter in American history.

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