Stephanie Ruhle reacts ‘are you kidding me?’ after Johnson says women can’t ‘compartmentalize’

Stephanie Ruhle reacted with disbelief after Mike Johnson and Kelly Johnson claimed men 'compartmentalize' while women think like 'spaghetti'
PUBLISHED DEC 7, 2025
Stephanie Ruhle reacted in disbelief as she watched Mike Johnson’s remarks on The 11th Hour (Screengrab/Katie Miller Pod, EpicTrail Studio/YouTube)
Stephanie Ruhle reacted in disbelief as she watched Mike Johnson’s remarks on The 11th Hour (Screengrab/Katie Miller Pod, EpicTrail Studio/YouTube)


WASHINGTON, DC: On Saturday, December 6 edition of 'The 11th Hour', MS NOW Stephanie Ruhle reacted with disbelief to comments made by House Speaker Mike Johnson and his wife, Kelly Johnson, about the way men and women think. Their remarks suggested that women’s brains are inherently different — and inferior — when it comes to mental “compartmentalization.”

MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN - JULY 16: Speaker of the House Mike Johnson (R-LA) and his wife, Kelly Johnson, appear on stage on the second day of the Republican National Convention at the Fiserv Forum on July 16, 2024 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Delegates, politicians, and the Republican faithful are in Milwaukee for the annual convention, concluding with former President Donald Trump accepting his party's presidential nomination. The RNC takes place from July 15-18. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)
Mike Johnson and Kelly Johnson appeared at the Republican National Convention months before their comments resurfaced (Scott Olson/Getty Images)

Mike Johnson and Kelly Johnson defend their remarks on men and women’s thinking

The comments came from a November 26, 2025 interview with Katie Miller on the 'Katie Miller Podcast.' During the conversation, Mike Johnson claimed, “men and women are different in this way, is that men can compartmentalize things.” Kelly Johnson expanded on that analogy by comparing men’s brains to waffles, saying they work in neat boxes that allow them to focus on one thing at a time.

“They have little compartments, and they can think on one little compartment at a time and close it. And men actually have a compartment that has nothing in it,” she said. She added that when a man says he is thinking about “nothing,” he genuinely means it — a point Mike Johnson nodded along to.

Speaker of the House Mike Johnson (R-LA) (R) talks to reporters with (L-R) Majority Whip Tom Emmer (R-MN), Rep. August Pfluger (R-TX), Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-LA), Rep. Harriet Hageman (R-WY) and members of the Republican Study Committee during a news conference on the 28th day of the federal government shutdown at the U.S. Capitol on October 28, 2025 in Washington, DC. While keeping the House of Representatives out of session and away from Washington, Republican leaders blamed Democratic lawmakers for the continued federal government shutdown. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
Mike Johnson spoke to reporters at the Capitol as his earlier interview drew renewed scrutiny (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

Katie Miller later asked whether Mike Johnson’s earlier comment about thinking often about the Roman Empire fit into these “compartments.” Mike Johnson referenced Braveheart and Gladiator as his two favorite movies, saying he uses their themes in conversations with Republicans, and joked that he has “a whole compartment” for the Roman Empire.

By contrast, Kelly Johnson said women supposedly cannot compartmentalize. She described women’s minds as “spaghetti,” explaining that women are “always thinking” and can’t separate thoughts into tidy boxes the way men supposedly do.

Mike Johnson's wife Kelly Johnson was also featured in the German news site video (Mike Johnson/Facebook)
Kelly Johnson explained her “spaghetti” analogy while discussing how she believes women think (Mike Johnson/Facebook) 

Stephanie Ruhle reacts strongly to Mike Johnson and Kelly Johnson’s claims

After the clip aired, Ruhle could not hide her disbelief. She opened with a prayer: “Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen.” She then repeated, “Are you kidding me? I mean, are you kidding me?” before stressing the seriousness of the comments, given that they came from the Speaker of the House.

Ruhle said the remarks reflect what many women in Congress — including Republicans — have privately voiced about Johnson’s leadership. “These women in Congress feel like they are being treated less than because of his views,” she said.

NEW YORK, NEW YORK - SEPTEMBER 17: Stephanie Ruhle attends the Fast Company Innovation Festival 2024 at BMCC Tribeca PAC on September 17, 2024 in New York City. (Photo by Eugene Gologursky/Getty Images for Fast Company)
Stephanie Ruhle attended the Fast Company Innovation Festival after her reaction clip circulated (Eugene Gologursky/Getty Images)

She added that she does not interact with Johnson personally, but that watching the interview made her question whether those concerns from female lawmakers might be justified.

Mike Johnson has long said that his worldview is rooted in his reading of the Bible, and when he became Speaker in 2023, he said he “makes no apologies for it.”

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