Susie Wiles questions JD Vance’s credibility, claims he has been a 'conspiracy theorist' for years

Susie Wiles labeled JD Vance a ‘conspiracy theorist’, and her remarks highlighted tensions in Trump’s team as debates over Epstein files intensified
PUBLISHED DEC 16, 2025
Susie Wiles credited Kash Patel and Dan Bongino for shaping Trump supporters’ expectations on Epstein records through their prior involvement (Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)
Susie Wiles credited Kash Patel and Dan Bongino for shaping Trump supporters’ expectations on Epstein records through their prior involvement (Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)

WASHINGTON, DC: White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles said Vice President JD Vance has been a "conspiracy theorist" for more than a decade. 

Wiles made the remarks in an interview with Vanity Fair author Chris Whipple, where she discussed how senior officials viewed the political importance of releasing files connected to Jeffrey Epstein.

According to Wiles, some members of the administration understood early on how strongly President Donald Trump’s base supported transparency around the Epstein records.

(L-R) U.S. Vice President JD Vance and Speaker of the House Mike Johnson (R-LA) wait for President Donald Trump's address to a joint session of Congress at the U.S. Capitol on March 04, 2025 in Washington, DC. President Trump was expected to address Congress on his early achievements of his presidency and his upcoming legislative agenda. (Photo by Andrew Harnik/Getty Images)
Vice President JD Vance and Speaker of the House Mike Johnson wait for President Donald Trump's address to a joint session of Congress at the US Capitol on March 04, 2025, in Washington, DC (Andrew Harnik/Getty Images)

Susie Wiles discusses Epstein files and internal dynamics

Wiles said FBI Director Kash Patel and FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino were among those who grasped how central the issue was to Trump’s supporters.

"The people that really appreciated what a big deal this is are Kash and Dan Bongino," Wiles said, according to the interview.

WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA - NOVEMBER 05: Republican presidential nominee, former U.S. President Donald Trump praises his campaign senior advisor Susie Wiles during an election night event at the Palm Beach Convention Center on November 06, 2024 in West Palm Beach, Florida. Americans cast their ballots today in the presidential race between Republican nominee former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris, as well as multiple state elections that will determine the balance of power in Congress. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles made the remarks during a recent Vanity Fair interview (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

She attributed that awareness to their prior engagement with the issue before joining the administration.

"Because they lived in that world," Wiles said.

Wiles then turned to Vance, offering a blunt assessment of his background. "And the vice president, who’s been a conspiracy theorist for a decade," she said.

U.S. Vice President JD Vance speaks during an interview with political commentator Mercedes Schlapp at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) at the Gaylord National Resort Hotel And Convention Center on February 20, 2025 in Oxon Hill, Maryland. The annual four-day gathering brings together conservative U.S. lawmakers, international leaders, media personalities and businessmen to discuss and champion conservative ideas. (Photo by Andrew Harnik/Getty Images)
Vice President JD Vance has not publicly responded to Wiles’s remarks (Andrew Harnik/Getty Images)

She also referenced Patel’s long-standing calls for the release of Epstein-related materials, noting that some expectations about the contents of the files did not align with what investigators later determined.

Criticism extends to the Justice Department

In the same interview, Wiles criticized Attorney General Pam Bondi’s handling of expectations surrounding the release of the Epstein files, suggesting the issue was underestimated.

"I think she completely whiffed on appreciating that that was the very targeted group that cared about this," Wiles said.

Former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi is sworn in to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee during her confirmation hearing for U.S. Attorney General in the Hart Senate Office Building on Capitol Hill on January 15, 2025 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
Attorney General Pam Bondi has overseen the Justice Department’s review of Epstein-related files (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

She described early outreach efforts to Trump supporters as ineffective. "First, she gave them binders full of nothingness," Wiles said.

Wiles also disputed Bondi’s prior public remarks about the existence of a client list. "Then she said that the witness list, or the client list, was on her desk," Wiles said. "There is no client list, and it sure as hell wasn’t on her desk."

Transparency law signed by Trump

The remarks come weeks after Trump signed the 'Epstein Files Transparency Act' into law in November, following bipartisan passage in both chambers of Congress.

The legislation gives the Justice Department 30 days to release most of the Epstein-related materials, subject to redactions required by law.

U.S. President Donald Trump holds up the “GENIUS Act” alongside Speaker of the House Mike Johnson (R-LA) after signing the bill into law during a ceremony in the East Room of the White House July 18, 2025 in Washington, DC. The act, formally known as the Guiding and Establishing National Innovation for U.S. Stablecoins Act, was passed this week by the U.S. Congress. (Photo by Win McNamee/Getty Images)
The Epstein Files Transparency Act requires the Justice Department to release most records within 30 days (Win McNamee/Getty Images)

Trump has framed the measure as part of a broader push for transparency and accountability, particularly on issues long questioned by the public.

Administration officials have said that the review process is ongoing and disclosures will comply with legal and privacy safeguards.

The White House has not issued a separate statement addressing her remarks about Vance or other officials mentioned in the interview.

Vance has also not publicly responded to the comments.

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