Trump claims poll numbers showed he could beat Washington and Lincoln before the Covid outbreak

Donald Trump said pollsters told him he held such a strong pre-pandemic advantage that even George Washington and Abraham Lincoln would have trailed him
Donald Trump spoke at the US-Saudi Investment Forum at the Kennedy Center on November 19, 2025 in Washington (Win McNamee/Getty Images)
Donald Trump spoke at the US-Saudi Investment Forum at the Kennedy Center on November 19, 2025 in Washington (Win McNamee/Getty Images)

WASHINGTON, DC: President Donald Trump claimed he was told shortly before the Covid-19 outbreak that his poll numbers were so strong he could beat two past presidents — George Washington and Abraham Lincoln — by a wide margin.

Speaking at the Kennedy Center, Trump revisited a conversation he said took place with his pollsters right before he learned about the virus spreading overseas. According to him, they assured him he was positioned for a near-certain victory in the 2020 election before the pandemic reshaped the political landscape.

A clip shared by The Bulwark captured Trump recounting the moment. “I met with pollsters the day before I got the news about Covid,” he said. “They said, ‘Sir, if George Washington and Abraham Lincoln came back from the dead, and they aligned and they went for the president, vice president as a combination, you’d be beating them by 25 points.’”



Donald Trump recalls Covid impact on 2020 campaign

Addressing the audience on Wednesday, November 19, Trump reflected on what he described as the global upheaval caused by the pandemic. He referenced what he called a productive meeting with his campaign team that took place hours before he was informed about troubling reports of a deadly outbreak abroad.

Looking back, Trump said, “We did a great job with Covid, but that was a horrible thing for the whole world. The whole world suffered. Your countries suffered. Everybody suffered.”

He noted that the crisis changed everything, both politically and globally, and suggested his administration’s handling of the situation deserved more credit

U.S. President Donald Trump delivers remarks at the U.S.-Saudi Investment Forum at the Kennedy Center on November 19, 2025 in Washington, DC. The forum is intended to bring together business leaders, innovators and political leaders with the goal of strengthening economic ties and promoting investment between the United States and Saudi Arabia. (Photo by Win McNamee/Getty Images)
Donald Trump delivered remarks at the US-Saudi Investment Forum at the Kennedy Center on November 19, 2025 in Washington DC (Win McNamee/Getty Images)

Donald Trump cites pollsters predicting win over Washington and Lincoln

Trump tied the pollsters’ claim to what he said had been a strong economy and a confident campaign heading into 2020. He repeated that the pollsters stressed how dominant his position appeared before the virus arrived.

“I’ll never forget,” he said. “I met with pollsters the day before I got the news about Covid. They said, sir, if George Washington and Abraham Lincoln came back from the dead and they aligned, and they went for the president, vice president as a combination, you’d be beating them by 25 points.”

President Donald Trump and Crown Prince and Prime Minister Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia stand for a photo with Tesla CEO Elon Musk, Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang and other participants at the U.S.-Saudi Investment Forum at the Kennedy Center on November 19, 2025 in Washington, DC. The forum is intended to bring together business leaders, innovators and political leaders with the goal of strengthening economic ties and promoting investment between the United States and Saudi Arabia. (Photo by Win McNamee/Getty Images)
Donald Trump and Mohammed bin Salman posed with Elon Musk, Jensen Huang and other participants at the US-Saudi Investment Forum on November 19, 2025 (Win McNamee/Getty Images)

He said the next day he was told of unusual reports from overseas. “There’s a lot of death being reported in a certain country. I won’t tell you which one because that country is well represented here. But you know which one,” he said. “Thousands and thousands of people are dying. And I said, that’s strange. What would that be? And it turned out to be a disaster for the world.”

Donald Trump repeats earlier claim of wider margin

Trump has continued to insist that Joe Biden’s 2020 victory resulted from fraud, although no evidence supports that claim. He has used the Washington-Lincoln comparison before, though he has cited different margins.

U.S. President Donald Trump delivers remarks at the McDonald’s Impact Summit at the Westin DC Downtown on November 17, 2025 in Washington, DC. Trump spoke on the economy and highlighted his One Big Beautiful Bill Act, including its provisions for tax breaks on tips and overtime as he addressed the group of McDonald’s restaurant franchise owners. (Photo by Win McNamee/Getty Images)
Donald Trump addressed McDonald’s franchise owners at the McDonald’s Impact Summit at the Westin DC Downtown on November 17, 2025 (Win McNamee/Getty Images)

At the Hispanic Leadership Conference in 2022, Trump said pollster John McLaughlin told him he would beat Washington and Lincoln by 40 percent if they ran as a ticket.

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