White House chief of staff reveals how employees adapt to ‘Trump time’ as POTUS works late nights

Susie Wiles said that Trump is someone who ‘never sleeps’
Donald Trump often grabs headlines for his late-night posting habits and the health concerns surrounding his irregular schedule (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)
Donald Trump often grabs headlines for his late-night posting habits and the health concerns surrounding his irregular schedule (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)


WASHINGTON, DC: Donald Trump often grabs headlines for his late-night posting habits and the health concerns surrounding his irregular schedule. The president is known for working late into the night.

However, Trump is not the only one working late nights in the White House, as Susie Wiles, Trump's chief of staff, reveals how she manages working with a President who doesn’t need sleep.

Susie Wiles dishes about ‘Trump time’ in White House

Susie Wiles, Trump's chief of staff, received the Barbara K Olson Woman of Valor Award night at the Independent Women’s Gala, on Thursday, May 7. As she spilled about how she copes with working for a president who is up all night posting on social media, Wiles revealed that she takes early calls and asks Dan Scavino to take late calls.

U.S. President Donald Trump departs with White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles following a roundtable discussion in the State Dining Room of the White House on October 08, 2025 in Washington, DC. Trump’s administration held the roundtable to discuss the anti-fascist Antifa movement after signing an executive order designating it as a “domestic terrorist organization”. (Photo by Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)
Trump departs with White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles following a roundtable discussion in the State Dining Room of the White House on October 08, 2025 in Washington, DC (Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)

Dan Scavino is the White House Deputy Chief of Staff.

Susie Wiles was interviewed about the job and how she manages working for a president who never sleeps during the award event.

“I am not one of those people that doesn’t need sleep, I actually do very much,” Wiles, 68, said reveling about the staff manages work load “in a White House that runs on Trump time.”

“I go to sleep early, and Dan Scavino—who I’m sure many of you know is a night owl—we divide it. I get the early calls, and Dan gets the late calls. That’s the way we’ve navigated over a couple of years, making sure we all get enough sleep, even if the president doesn’t.”



Scavino, the deputy chief of staff, responded to Wiles' comments on X with a video of an owl.

Wiles highlights sacrifices of White House staff

She also questioned if there were misconceptions about the White House and how it works, she might want to address.

White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles attends an Oval Office meeting between U.S. President Donald Trump and President of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan at the White House on September 25, 2025 in Washington, DC. Trump has signaled that the U.S. might lift a ban on F-35 sales to Turkey during Erdogan’s first visit to the White House since 2019. (Photo by Andrew Harnik/Getty Images)
White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles attends an Oval Office meeting between Trump and President of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan at the White House on September 25, 2025 in Washington, DC (Andrew Harnik/Getty Images)

We work hard, many people make sacrifices, they have young families, they have marriages that they’re trying to keep intact, and there’s just not the ability to prioritize that,” she explained.

“So when people come to work at the White House, they’re giving up a lot, so when we hear what rarefied air we live in, that’s true, but it doesn’t come without a price, and we’re honored to pay it, but I wish people understood more what seven days and 13 days and 21 days of 18-hour workdays do to you. It takes a bit away.”

Trump’s sleep schedule is often discussed publicly

Trump’s sleep schedule has often been discussed publicly. Earlier, Kaitlan Collins, CNN’s chief White House correspondent, claimed Trump often stays awake throughout Air Force One trips and occasionally wakes aides or staffers if he wants to continue talking or discussing matters.

WASHINGTON, DC - APRIL 17: U.S. President Donald Trump speaks to reporters after signing a proclamation in the Oval Office at the White House on April 17, 2025 in Washington, DC. The proclamation expands fishing rights in the Pacific Islands to an area he described as three times the size of California. (Photo by Win McNamee/Getty Images)
Trump speaks to reporters after signing a proclamation in the Oval Office at the White House on April 17, 2025 in Washington, DC (Win McNamee/Getty Images)

Collins told Jason Tartick’s Trading Secrets podcast, “I had this source who said ‘you never want to be on Airforce One on a trip’. And I said why? You’d think you’d want to [have] access to power, close to Trump.”

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