Jake Tapper confronts Kristi Noem on ICE shooting and Jan 6 law enforcement

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DHS secretary Kristi Noem questioned on whether Capitol Police would have been justified in using deadly force against rioters (Getty Images)
DHS secretary Kristi Noem questioned on whether Capitol Police would have been justified in using deadly force against rioters (Getty Images)

WASHINGTON, DC: Department of Homeland Security Secretary (DHS) Kristi Noem was pressed by CNN anchor Jake Tapper on Sunday, January 11, over what he described as inconsistent standards in how law enforcement actions are judged under the Trump administration.

During a wide-ranging interview on State of the Union, Tapper played video footage from the January 6, 2021 Capitol riot and compared it to a recent fatal shooting involving an ICE agent in Minneapolis.

The exchange centered on whether Capitol Police would have been justified in using deadly force against rioters who physically attacked officers that day. Noem rejected the premise of a double standard, insisting that each incident must be evaluated based on its specific circumstances.

: Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem takes questions from the press before boarding her plane to Colombia at Comalapa International Airport on March 26, 2025 in San Salvador, El Salvador. The Trump administration deported 238 alleged members of the Venezuelan criminal organizations 'Tren De Aragua' and Mara Salvatrucha with only 23 being members of the Mara. Nayib Bukele president of El Salvador announced that his government will receive the alleged members of the gang to be taken to CECOT. (Photo by Alex Brandon-Pool/Getty Images)
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem takes questions from the press before boarding her plane to Colombia at Comalapa International Airport on March 26, 2025 in San Salvador, El Salvador. (Photo by Alex Brandon-Pool/Getty Images)

Tapper raises comparison between Jan 6 riot and ICE shooting 

During the interview, Tapper played footage showing rioters physically confronting law enforcement officers inside and around the US Capitol on January 6.

He compared those scenes to the fatal shooting of Renee Good by an ICE agent in Minneapolis and questioned whether the same standards applied. “Those are law enforcement officers being physically attacked,” Tapper said of the Capitol Police shown in the footage. “By this standard, would any of those officers be justified in shooting and killing the people causing them physical harm?”

DETROIT, MICHIGAN - JULY 31: CNN moderator Jake Tapper speaks to the crowd attending the Democratic
CNN moderator Jake Tapper speaks to the crowd attending the Democratic Presidential Debate at the Fox Theatre July 31, 2019 in Detroit, Michigan. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)

Noem said that use-of-force decisions depend on circumstances faced by officers. “Every single situation is going to rely on the situation those officers are on,” she said.

“But they know that when people are putting hands on them, when they are using weapons against them, when they’re physically harming them, that they have the authority to arrest those individuals.”

U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem boards a plane before departing from Mariscal Sucre International Airport on July 31, 2025 in Quito, Ecuador. Noem is on a multi-day visit to Argentina, Chile, and Paraguay. (Photo by Alex Brandon-Pool/Getty Images)
U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem boards a plane before departing from Mariscal Sucre International Airport on July 31, 2025 in Quito, Ecuador.(Photo by Alex Brandon-Pool/Getty Images)

Tapper then referenced President Trump’s actions following January 6. “The president pardoned every single one of those people,” he said, referring to rioters who assaulted law enforcement officers.

Noem said enforcement decisions are made within the framework of individual investigations. “Every single one of these investigations comes in the full context of the situation on the ground,” she said.

WASHINGTON, DC - JANUARY 6: Trump supporters clash with police and security forces as people try to
Trump supporters clash with police and security forces as people try to storm the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, in Washington, DC (Getty Images)

She added that Trump has focused on enforcing laws consistently and that disagreements over enforcement should be addressed through legislative action.

Noem defends administration's law enforcement approach 

Tapper challenged Noem’s assertion that laws are enforced equally, citing the pardons granted to individuals involved in the Capitol riot. “I just showed you video of people attacking law enforcement officers,” Tapper said.

“Undisputed proof, undisputed evidence. And I just said President Trump pardoned all of them. And you said that President Trump is enforcing all the laws equally. It’s just not true.”

WASHINGTON, DC - JANUARY 06: President Donald Trump arrives at the
President Donald Trump arrives at the "Stop The Steal" Rally on January 06, 2021 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images)

Noem reiterated that investigations must be evaluated individually. “These instances and these investigations all have to be taken and done correctly in context of every situation that is happening on the ground,” she said.

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem delivers a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference, CPAC, on May 27, 2025 in Rzeszów, Poland. (Photo by Alex Brandon-Pool/Getty Images)
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem delivers a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference, CPAC, on May 27, 2025 in Rzeszów, Poland. (Photo by Alex Brandon-Pool/Getty Images)

She also addressed the Department of Homeland Security’s current priorities, saying the agency is focused on pursuing serious offenders.

 “The Department of Homeland Security is out there with our law enforcement officers, making sure that we’re targeting the worst of the worst,” Noem said, adding that individuals who commit acts of violence should face consequences.

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