Joe Rogan says Trump is using ICE and fraud controversies to distract from Epstein files release

'It’s gonna go on for a long time, I suspect,' Joe Rogan said of the Epstein files release
Joe Rogan discussed the incomplete release of the Epstein files on the January 22 episode of his podcast (@JREClips/YouTube)
Joe Rogan discussed the incomplete release of the Epstein files on the January 22 episode of his podcast (@JREClips/YouTube)

AUSTIN, TEXAS: Podcast giant Joe Rogan accused President Donald Trump and his administration of deliberately shifting public attention away from the still-unreleased Epstein files during a recent episode of ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’.

The comments were made on Thursday, January 22, during a wide-ranging conversation that also touched on ICE raids, government fraud investigations, and mounting public frustration over transparency promises.

Rogan was joined by comedian Ehsan Ahmad when the discussion turned to the Department of Justice’s partial release of documents related to disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein, a release that fell short of a December deadline set by Congress.

Joe Rogan questions what was actually released in Epstein files

Rogan sounded skeptical about the administration’s repeated claims that the Epstein files have already been made public. While acknowledging that thousands of pages have been released, he argued that the most consequential material still appears to be missing.

Comedian Joe Rogan performs during his appearance at The Ice House Comedy Club on April 17, 2019 in Pasadena, California (Image Source: Getty Images | Photo by Michael S Schwartz)
Comedian Joe Rogan performs during his appearance at The Ice House Comedy Club on April 17, 2019, in Pasadena, California (Michael S Schwartz/Getty Images)

“It’s gonna go on for a long time, I suspect,” Rogan said while discussing the issue. “I mean they said they released them, but what did they release?”

The DOJ has acknowledged that not all Epstein-related records have been made public, despite bipartisan pressure and campaign-era promises that full transparency would be delivered. That gap, Rogan suggested, is not accidental.

ICE raids and Minnesota fraud probe dominate headlines

Ahmad pointed out that the Epstein story has largely faded from public conversation, replaced by fast-moving developments in Minnesota. The state has been rocked by an investigation into what could amount to billions of dollars in government fraud, alongside protests following the fatal shooting of 37-year-old Minneapolis mother Renee Nicole Good by an ICE agent.

A portrait of Renee Nicole Good is pasted to a light pole near the site of her shooting on January 08, 2026 in Minneapolis, Minnesota. According to federal officials, an ICE agent shot and killed Good during a confrontation yesterday in south Minneapolis. (Stephen Maturen/Getty Images)
A portrait of Renee Nicole Good is pasted to a light pole near the site of her shooting on January 8, 2026, in Minneapolis, Minnesota (Stephen Maturen/Getty Images)

“With the Somalians and the ICE shooting, it feels like that’s completely drowned out, anything about it,” Ahmad said.

Rogan immediately agreed, suggesting the overlap of crises serves a purpose.

MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA - JANUARY 09: Demonstrators stop outside various hotels to make noise to discourage federal agents from staying there on January 09, 2026 in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Protest have sparked up around the city after a federal agent on an immigration enforcement patrol allegedly fatally shot a woman in her car during an incident in south Minneapolis on Wednesday. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)
Demonstrators stop outside various hotels to make noise to discourage federal agents from staying there on January 9, 2026, in Minneapolis, Minnesota (Getty Images)

“I think some of that’s on purpose,” Rogan added.

“Oh, 100%,” Ahmad replied, reinforcing the idea that the administration benefits from the shifting news cycle.

Joe Rogan mocks Trump over campaign promises on Epstein transparency

Later in the episode, Rogan turned his attention directly to Trump, reacting to news that a federal judge rejected an effort by Rep Thomas Massie (R-KY) and Rep Ro Khanna (D-CA) to appoint an independent monitor to oversee the Epstein files release.

WASHINGTON, DC - MARCH 11: U.S. Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) speaks to reporters following a series of votes at the U.S. Capitol on March 11, 2025 in Washington, DC. The House passed a bill to avert a Friday government shutdown by a 217-213 vote largely along party lines. The bill now moves to the Senate where it will need help from Democrats to move it past a filibuster. Massie was the sole Republican member who opposed the legislation. (Photo by Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)
Rep Thomas Massie (R-KY) speaks to reporters following a series of votes at the US Capitol on March 11, 2025, in Washington, DC (Getty Images)

Massie and Khanna were instrumental in passing legislation that forced the administration to begin releasing documents. Their latest push, however, was blocked, a move Rogan found both ironic and revealing.

Rep. Ro Khanna (D-CA) speaks during a news conference on the Epstein Files Transparency Act outside the U.S. Capitol on November 18, 2025 in Washington, DC. The House is expected to vote today on the legislation, which instructs the U.S. Department of Justice to release all files related to the late accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein. (Photo by Heather Diehl/Getty Images)
Rep Ro Khanna (D-CA) speaks during a news conference on the Epstein Files Transparency Act outside the US Capitol on November 18, 2025, in Washington, DC (Getty Images)

“So a federal judge said, no, you can’t force them to release it even though you campaigned on it,” Rogan said, laughing. “Even though you ran on it, even though you stood outside of that courthouse with a bunch of binders, ‘we’ve got it!’”

The remark referenced Trump’s highly publicized campaign-era appearances in which he suggested his administration would fully expose Epstein’s network and connections.

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