'Not really dug in': John Thune on Trump's stance on AI guardrails

John Thune made the comments during an interview following private AI safety talks with Trump and Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei
Senate Majority Leader John Thune and President Donald Trump arrive at the  Capitol on June 24, 2026, in Washington, DC (Getty Images)
Senate Majority Leader John Thune and President Donald Trump arrive at the Capitol on June 24, 2026, in Washington, DC (Getty Images)

WASHINGTON, DC: Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-SD) said private talks with President Donald Trump left him believing Trump is “not really dug in” against AI guardrails.

Thune said he believes Trump wants the tech industry to police itself on AI safety rather than face new government rules.

Thune made the comments during an interview with Axios published on Wednesday, September 23, at his Capitol office after discussing AI safety privately with Trump and Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei. 

Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., flanked by Sen. Shelley Moore Capito, R-W.Va., and Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., speaks to reporters after a weekly Republican luncheon, at the Capitol Tuesday, Sept. 15, 2026, in Washington. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)
Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-SD, speaks to reporters after a weekly Republican luncheon, at the Capitol Tuesday, September 15, 2026, in Washington (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)

John Thune says Trump is open to some AI guardrails

Thune said he spoke with Trump a few weeks ago as the debate over AI safety was becoming “pretty hot,” and came away with a more nuanced view of the president’s position.

“I do think that the threats are real,” Thune told the outlet, while saying some of Trump’s resistance is directed at what he described as public “paranoia and noise around the subject.”

Thune said Trump appears to favor having companies develop their own methods for securing AI systems, with experts providing guidance, rather than having Congress or the administration impose broader requirements.

ST PAUL, MINNESOTA - JANUARY 16: Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) attends a field hearing at the Minnesota Senate Building on January 16, 2026 in St Paul, Minnesota. Democrats attend the field hearing titled Kidnapped and Disappeared: Trump’s Deadly Assault on Minnesota, where local citizens and politicians speak about Immigration Operation “Metro Surge”. (Photo by Jim Vondruska/Getty Images)
Senator Amy Klobuchar attends a field hearing at the Minnesota Senate Building on January 16, 2026, in St Paul, Minnesota (Jim Vondruska/Getty Images)

Trump has publicly called recent fears about AI safety a “hoax.” 

But Thune said he does not believe the president is completely opposed to guardrails.

“I think you have to have at least some sort of a plan and some guardrails around it, which is what I think our bill does,” Thune said.

Thune has worked on an AI bill with Sen Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn, in past years, though the legislation has not yet been reintroduced in the current Congress. 

President Donald Trump talks with reporters after an emergency inflatable slide deployed on Air Force One before before Trump arrived to board at Joint Base Andrews, Md., Wednesday, Sept. 9, 2026. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)
President Donald Trump talks with reporters after at Joint Base Andrews, Md, Wednesday, September 9, 2026 (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)

John Thune's bill would put companies on the hook

The bill would place responsibility on technology companies to mitigate AI risks and require companies to report serious risks involving frontier models, the outlet reported.

It would also require companies to develop plans for addressing those concerns, according to Thune. Klobuchar is seeking additional Democratic co-sponsors, including Senators Chris Coons, D-Del, and Maria Cantwell, D-Wash, before the bill is reintroduced.

Thune said Democrats have two major concerns with the legislation. 

One involves pre-deployment testing, which companies can currently choose to undertake under the bill language. Democrats want the testing requirement to be mandatory, the report cited.

Cantwell also wants the Department of Commerce to have AI rulemaking authority. 

WASHINGTON, DC - APRIL 20: U.S. Rep. Ro Khanna (D-CA) (3rd L) speaks as Sen. Ed Markey (D-MA) (2nd L), Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) (R) and other participants listen during a news conference on the “Green New Deal” in front of the U.S. Capitol on April 20, 2023 in Washington, DC. The lawmakers held a news conference to reintroduce the
Rep Ro Khanna  speaks at a news conference in front of the Capitol on April 20, 2023, in Washington, DC (Alex Wong/Getty Images)

Thune said he worries that could give the executive branch too much power.

At the same time, Thune said lawmakers need to distinguish between genuine AI risks and exaggerated warnings.

“But I do also think that there are people who are... doing a lot of fear mongering,” Thune said.

AI safety debate extends beyond Capitol Hill

Thune said Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei called him to discuss AI safety before making his latest public warning about the technology’s risks.

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President Donald Trump participates in events at the Great Hall of the People and does a greeting with the President of the People’s Republic of China Xi Jinping May 14, 2026, in Beijing, China (Kenny Holston/The New York Times — Getty Images)

The two also discussed Thune’s bill, as per the report.

The debate is also appearing in US-China discussions. 

Aalok Mehta, director of the Wadhwani AI Center at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, told CNBC that leaders in both countries are concerned about AI models’ cyber capabilities and autonomous systems escaping containment.

Washington continues to restrict China’s access to Nvidia’s most advanced AI chips, while accusing Chinese AI companies of using “distillation” to train models on outputs from more advanced US systems, as per the outlet. 

China's President Xi Jinping, center right, speaks with Eric Trump as U.S. President Donald Trump, center left, and Lara Trump look on at the Temple of Heaven in Beijing Thursday, May 14, 2026. (Brendan Smialowski/Pool Photo via AP)
China's President Xi Jinping speaks with Eric Trump as President Donald Trump and Lara Trump look on at the Temple of Heaven in Beijing Thursday, May 14, 2026 (Brendan Smialowski/Pool Photo via AP)

Beijing rejects that claim.

Rep Ro Khanna, D-Calif, said he hoped Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping could reach “some common sense safeguards,” including an agreement against self-improving AI. 

“Why wouldn’t you want to sit down with Xi Jinping and say, 'Let’s have some reasonable agreement?'” Khanna said, the outlet cited.

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