Thomas Massie says Bondi was 'afraid' to face Epstein survivors at hearing: 'Cold on her part'

Thomas Massie said that he had no confidence in Pam Bondi, saying, 'She hasn’t got any sort of accountability there at the DOJ'
Speaking on Sunday, February 15, Thomas Massie said that Attorney General Pam Bondi failed to engage substantively with lawmakers during the Epstein files hearing (Getty Images)
Speaking on Sunday, February 15, Thomas Massie said that Attorney General Pam Bondi failed to engage substantively with lawmakers during the Epstein files hearing (Getty Images)


WASHINGTON, DC: Rep Thomas Massie (R-Ky) said on Sunday, February 15, that Attorney General Pam Bondi avoided looking at survivors of Jeffrey Epstein during her testimony before the House Judiciary Committee because she was “afraid to.”

“I think that was kind of cold on her part. I think she was afraid to,” Massie said, criticizing Bondi’s conduct during the hearing and the Justice Department’s handling of the Epstein files.

Speaking on ABC News’ 'This Week' with co-anchor Martha Raddatz, Massie said that Bondi had failed to engage substantively with lawmakers. “I don’t think she did very well. She came with a book full of insults, one for each congressperson,” Massie said.

WASHINGTON, DC - FEBRUARY 11: U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi testifies before the House Judiciary Committee in the Rayburn House Office Building on February 11, 2026 in Washington, DC. Bondi is expected to face questions on her department’s handling of the files related to the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, President Trump’s investigations into political foes and the handing of the two fatal ICE shootings of U.S. citizens. (Photo by Win McNamee/Getty Images)
Attorney General Pam Bondi testifies before the House Judiciary Committee in the Rayburn House Office Building on February 11, 2026, in Washington, DC (Win McNamee/Getty Images)

Thomas Massie says the Transparency Act was for delivering justice

Massie stressed that the issue was not about prominent political figures such as Bill Clinton or Donald Trump, but about delivering justice to victims. “These survivors would love to have a meeting,” he said.

“This Epstein Files Transparency Act was about getting these survivors justice. We’ve got some degree of transparency, but it’s called the Department of Justice, not the department of transparency.”

He added that survivors were still waiting for access to critical evidence, including their own FBI 302 interview forms that remained unreleased, and said that accountability would remain incomplete until the men they implicated were prosecuted.

WASHINGTON, DC - MARCH 11: U.S. Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) speaks to reporters following a series of votes at the U.S. Capitol on March 11, 2025 in Washington, DC. The House passed a bill to avert a Friday government shutdown by a 217-213 vote largely along party lines. The bill now moves to the Senate where it will need help from Democrats to move it past a filibuster. Massie was the sole Republican member who opposed the legislation. (Photo by Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)
Rep Thomas Massie (R-KY) speaks to reporters following a series of votes at the Capitol on March 11, 2025, in Washington, DC (Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)

Thomas Massie says 'no confidence' in attorney general

When asked directly whether he had confidence in Bondi, Massie said that he did not, arguing she appeared unwilling to address serious questions about accountability at the Justice Department.

“She wasn’t confident enough to engage in anything but name-calling in a hearing,” Massie said. “So no, I don’t have confidence in her. She hasn’t got any sort of accountability there at the DOJ.”

During the hearing, Bondi accused Massie of having “Trump derangement syndrome.”

Epstein abuse survivor Jena-Lisa Jones holds up a photo of her younger self during a news conference with lawmakers on the Epstein Files Transparency Act outside the U.S. Capitol on November 18, 2025, in Washington, DC. (Photo by Heather Diehl/Getty Images)
Epstein survivor Jena-Lisa Jones holds up a photo of her younger self during a news conference with lawmakers on the Epstein Files Transparency Act outside the Capitol on November 18, 2025, in Washington, DC (Heather Diehl/Getty Images)

Epstein survivors highlighted at hearing

At another point in the hearing, Rep Pramila Jayapal asked the Epstein survivors seated behind Bondi to raise their hands if they had not been able to meet with the Justice Department. All of the survivors present raised their hands.

Bondi declined to turn around to look at the victims, dismissing the moment as “theatrics.” Massie called the decision “cold” and said that he believed Bondi was “afraid” to face the survivors.

The hearing followed the Justice Department’s release of more than three million pages of Epstein-related files, a disclosure that drew criticism in the US and abroad.



While the documents named several powerful figures, without accusing them of wrongdoing, Massie claimed that the DOJ mishandled the redactions.

He accused the department of exposing victim identities in some instances while over-redacting the names of influential individuals and potential co-conspirators.

Massie said that some documents were unredacted only after he flagged the issue during the hearing. “It’s clear that their work is not done here yet,” he said.

WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 16: Chairperson Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-WA) speaks during a Congressional Progressive Caucus news conference at the U.S. Capitol on May 16, 2024 in Washington, DC. The Congressional Progressive Caucus unveiled their agenda for policies they plan to push next year if Democrats win the 2024 election including a higher minimum wage, strengthened antitrust laws and new federal benefits for seniors on Social Security and parents raising kids. (Photo by Kent Nishimura/Getty Images)
Chairperson Rep Pramila Jayapal (D-WA) speaks during a Congressional Progressive Caucus news conference at the Capitol on May 16, 2024, in Washington, DC (Kent Nishimura/Getty Images)

Although lawmakers were later allowed to view less-redacted versions of the files in person, Massie said that he remained dissatisfied, noting that some documents were removed before Congress could review them fully.

Despite often voting with Trump, Massie said that former Attorney General Merrick Garland, who served under President Joe Biden, handled his own appearances before the committee better in terms of optics. 

“I know the DOJ wants to say they’re done with this document production,” Massie said. “The problem is, they’re not.”

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