Fox News' Julie Banderas shuts down Dem strategist for bragging he hasn't stepped in a ‘pool of blood’

Fred Hicks bragged that he hasn’t stepped in a 'single pool of blood' when confronted with crime statistics cited by the Trump administration
PUBLISHED SEP 2, 2025
Fox News anchor Julie Banderas wasn’t letting Democratic strategist Fred Hicks skate by on Monday, September 1, after he brushed off Chicago's crime stats (Fox News)
Fox News anchor Julie Banderas wasn’t letting Democratic strategist Fred Hicks skate by on Monday, September 1, after he brushed off Chicago's crime stats (Fox News)

ATLANTA, CHICAGO: Fox News anchor Julie Banderas wasn’t letting Democratic strategist Fred Hicks skate by on Monday, September 1, after he brushed off crime stats cited by the Trump administration as justification for sending in the National Guard.

The on-air dust-up happened during a panel debate that got heated fast.



 

Conservative strategist Luke Ball threw the first punch, asking how Democrats could “argue crime is under control” when “blood is flowing in the streets?”

Hicks didn’t buy it. “Gosh, if any of that were true it would be scary,” he shot back. “That’s not true. I went to Chicago, DC earlier this year, I’m in Atlanta right now — and I’ve not yet stepped in one single pool of blood. So, I’m not sure what America, what major city Luke is referencing, and not sure even when I’m in New York City, what he is referencing.”

Julie Banderas calls out Fred Hicks for dismissing crime stats

That’s when Julie Banderas jumped in, visibly stunned by Fred Hicks’ casual dismissal.

“Are you kidding?” she exclaimed. “Wait a minute. OK, so, you haven’t stepped — woah, woah, woah, woah, woah — So, you haven’t stepped in a pool of blood? I will be honest with you. Neither have I, thank God. But a lot of New Yorkers have and a lot of people in Chicago have.”

“You have read the crime rates, right? I mean, in Chicago alone, you want to talk about Chicago. Fifty-two people shot this weekend alone! Last weekend 26 — 7 people killed. That’s a pool of blood. That’s 52 pools of blood! Maybe you didn’t step in it, but I tell you, the crime rates and statistics are facts. Why are you saying — I think that’s irresponsible," she added.

Julie Banderas (C) lashed out at Fred Hicks (L) for saying he hasn't stepped in a 'pool of blood' (Fox News/Screengrab)
Julie Banderas (C) lashed out at Fred Hicks (L) for saying he hasn't stepped in a 'single pool of blood' (Fox News/Screengrab)

Hicks doubled down, accusing Republicans of painting a skewed picture.

“Let me answer that," he said. "The picture that Luke is painting is one that is not representative of what’s happening in America. Is there crime? Absolutely. Should crime be dealt with? Absolutely. Are Democrats anti-police and defunders? No! [Chicago Mayor] Brandon Johnson is not a defunder. [Los Angeles mayor] Karen Bass is not a defunder.”

He also called out what he sees as Trump’s spin. “We don’t see this administration talking about going into Boise, Idaho, or other places like that. Always talking about Democrat-led cities. [Trump] has said that. He wants to go into Democratic cities. And that’s the problem. He is bringing policing and law and order and law enforcement into politics," Hicks added.

Donald Trump, JB Pritzker, and Brandon Johnson trade fire over Chicago

This comes after yet another bloody holiday in Chicago. At least 54 people were shot,  seven of them fatally, over Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims wounded, police said. That’s the backdrop for Trump’s renewed promise to send federal agents and National Guard troops into the Windy City, whether local leaders like it or not.

WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 30: U.S. President Donald Trump, joined by Tesla CEO Elon Musk, speaks to reporters in the Oval Office of the White House on May 30, 2025 in Washington, DC. Musk, who served as an adviser to Trump and led the Department of Government Efficiency, announced he would leave the Trump administration to refocus on his businesses. (Photo by Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)
President Donald Trump, joined by Tesla CEO Elon Musk, speaks to reporters in the Oval Office of the White House on May 30, 2025 in Washington, DC. Musk, who served as an adviser to Trump and led the Department of Government Efficiency, announced he would leave the Trump administration to refocus on his businesses. (Photo by Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)

On Saturday, Trump fired off a warning to Illinois Gov JB Pritzker that he “better straighten it out, FAST, or we’re coming!”

Pritzker has blasted the plan as flat-out illegal. He said at a news conference last week that Trump’s approach was “unprecedented and unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is un-American.”

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson hasn’t held back either, saying he has “grave concerns about the impact of any unlawful deployment of National Guard troops to the city of Chicago.” Johnson slammed Trump’s threat as “uncoordinated, uncalled for, and unsound,” warning that sending in the Guard could “inflame tensions between residents and law enforcement.”

CHICAGO, ILLINOIS - AUGUST 25: Flanked by Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker (L) and other Illinois politicians and community leaders, Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson speaks at a news conference to address President Donald Trump's plan to send National Guard troops into the city on August 25, 2025 in Chicago, Illinois. Besides Chicago, the president on Friday said he planned to target Baltimore and New York as well for his next federal crackdown on crime following days of federal agents working the streets of Washington with DC Metro Police. Trump today appeared to back off from those threats in remarks to reporters. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)
Flanked by Illinois Governor JB Pritzker (L) and other Illinois politicians and community leaders, Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson (C) speaks at a news conference to address President Donald Trump's plan to send National Guard troops into the city on August 25, 2025, in Chicago, Illinois (Scott Olson/Getty Images)

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