Rachael Ray reveals ‘weird’ aspect of her marriage with John Cusimano while calling him a ‘true partner’

Rachael Ray reveals ‘weird’ aspect of her marriage with John Cusimano while calling him a ‘true partner’
Rachael Ray and John M Cusimano tied the knot in Italy in 2005, renewing their vows a decade later (Getty Images)

NEW YORK CITY, NEW YORK: In a candid revelation on her 'I’ll Sleep When I’m Dead' podcast, Rachael Ray shared new insights into her marriage to John M Cusimano, offering a glimpse of the dynamic that keeps their relationship thriving.

Speaking with legendary chef Jacques Pepin on the latest episode, the celebrity chef shared that she and Cusimano complement each other in a “weird way".

Celebrity cook Rachael Ray and her husband John Cusimano arrive at the White House for a state dinner October 18, 2016 in Washington, DC. U.S. President Barack Obama is hosting a state dinner for Prime Minister of Italy Matteo Renzi and his wife Agnese Landini. (Alex Wong/Getty Images)
Celebrity cook Rachael Ray and her husband John Cusimano arrive at the White House for a state dinner October 18, 2016 in Washington, DC (Alex Wong/Getty Images)

Rachael Ray and John M Cusimano 'balance each other'

Rachael Ray and John M Cusimano tied the knot in Italy in 2005, renewing their vows a decade later in the same Tuscan castle where they first married.

“You know, [John is] a lawyer and a musician,” Ray explained.

“I’m not a musician. I’m certainly no lawyer. I hate reading legal documents and official stuff, but we balance each other in a weird way. We allow each other to be open to different worlds.”

Over the years, Cusimano has been not only her husband but a partner in business and life—a crucial support for Ray’s growing brand.



 

“One of the things that I think has been essential to my life and my success over the years is the partner that I chose,” she reflected, crediting Cusimano for their shared values.

“We agree in concept about service to community, service to the world, service to animals, to children.”

Having married in their late 30s, Ray and Cusimano didn’t rush into marriage.

“It was very important to me that I marry him because I thought this person could be a true partner in what I believe in and building, not a business, but a community,” she said.

Television personality Rachael Ray and her husband John Cusimano, lawyer and lead singer of the rock band
 Rachael Ray and her husband John Cusimano attend the Allen & Company Sun Valley Conference on July 12, 2012, in Sun Valley, Idaho (Kevork Djansezian/Getty Images)

In earlier podcast episodes, Ray has revealed more sides of their relationship, including their need for personal space—a balance that has been essential for both.

During an October 29 episode with guest Billy Crudup, she shared, as per People, “I am very wildly, wildly, wildly lucky that I have my husband. But he understands I need my space. He needs his space.”

And while they enjoy their independence, Ray was upfront about their fiery moments too.

Rachael Ray opens up about 'huge screaming matches' with John Cusimano

Rachael Ray recently confessed to guest Jenny Mollen that arguments are common in their household.

“It’s very hard, especially for hot-tempered or creative or vociferous loud people to be able to just calm it down,” she said.

Chef Rachael Ray (R) and husband John Cusimano attend the 39th annual Daytime Emmy Awards at The Beverly Hilton Hotel on June 23, 2012 in Beverly Hills, California. (Photo by Jason LaVeris/FilmMagic)
Rachael Ray said she and husband John Cusimano have 'huge screaming matches' which have proved healthy for their relationship (Jason LaVeris/FilmMagic)

“John and I don’t calm it down ever. We have huge screaming matches all the time, but I think that’s healthy. I really do. And I don’t trust people that are too quiet.”

As for apologies? The couple has their own way of moving forward. “I don’t know that we ever apologize to each other,” Ray admitted.

Rachael Ray (R) and husband John Cusimano attends Food Network's 20th birthday celebration at Pier 92 on October 17, 2013 in New York City. (Photo by Noam Galai/WireImage)
Rachael Ray and John Cusimano do not apologize to each other but have their own way of moving forward after arguments (Noam Galai/WireImage)

“Eventually I pat him on his a** or he kisses me on the head, and that’s just sort of it. That’s the apology. It’s just sort of understood. ‘I still like your a**.’ ‘I still like your head.’ It’s kind of in that zone.”

Ray's openness about her marriage provides a refreshing look at the ups and downs of a long-term relationship, one that’s fueled by love, partnership, and an understanding that “balancing each other in a weird way” is sometimes exactly what’s needed.

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