Tucker Carlson says Trump hangouts feel like ‘smoking hash’ with ‘spell-like’ effect

Tucker Carlson described Donald Trump’s presence as disorienting, saying his influence over people felt like a haze-like mental shift
Tucker Carlson described Trump’s presence as disorienting during a recent interview on foreign policy (@AllyJKiss/X, Getty Images)
Tucker Carlson described Trump’s presence as disorienting during a recent interview on foreign policy (@AllyJKiss/X, Getty Images)


WASHINGTON, DC: Tucker Carlson described Donald Trump’s presence in unusually vivid terms, saying that spending time with the President felt like being in an altered state, comparing the experience to “smoking hash” and suggesting a “spell-like” quality in how Trump affects people around him.

Carlson, speaking during an interview with journalist Lulu Garcia-Navarro, reflected on interactions with Donald Trump and how those moments influenced perception and decision-making among those in his orbit. He said the experience often felt disorienting, as if conversations and judgments became less grounded after prolonged exposure.

“It’s like smoking hash or something. It’s interesting. Very interesting,” Carlson said, describing what he called the mental fog that can set in after spending time with Trump.

Carlson has in recent months been critical of the administration’s approach to the Iran conflict, while Trump has defended his strategy and rhetoric (Screengrab/X/@allenanalysis)
Carlson had noted that few voices in Trump’s circle strongly pushed for escalation in Iran conflict (Screengrab/@allenanalysis/X)

Tucker Carlson says Trump presence creates ‘spell-like’ influence on allies

Carlson went further, suggesting that Donald Trump’s presence creates a powerful psychological pull on people around him.

“I think it probably literally is a spell,” Carlson said. of Trump. “The effect is to weaken people around him and make them more compliant and more confused. And I’ve experienced this myself. You spend a day with Trump, and sort of like you’re in this kind of dreamland.”

THE VILLAGES, FLORIDA - MAY 01: U.S. President Donald Trump speaks at The Villages Charter School on May 01, 2026 in The Villages, Florida. President Trump spoke about economic development, his administration's tax plan and Social Security. (Photo by Roberto Schmidt/Getty Images)
Trump spoke at The Villages Charter School in Florida on May 01, 2026, addressing economic policy and taxes (Roberto Schmidt/Getty Images)

He added that he could not fully explain the phenomenon but believed it was real based on personal experience.

“There could be a supernatural component to it. I’m not a theologian, but it’s real, and anyone who’s been around him can tell you it’s true,” he said.

Tucker Carlson says few in Trump orbit push Iran war escalation

Carlson also addressed internal dynamics within Donald Trump’s political circle, particularly on foreign policy discussions involving Iran.

He noted that there were not many people in Trump’s orbit who are “enthusiastically pushing this war [in Iran] on him,” suggesting that internal resistance may exist despite external political pressure.

Tucker Carlson denies ‘Antichrist’ framing in Donald Trump commentary

Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump sit together on 'Tucker on X' to discuss why Trump didn't attend the GOP debate (Twitter/@TuckerCarlson)
Tucker Carlson and Trump appeared together on 'Tucker on X' discussing the GOP debate absence (@TuckerCarlson/X)

During the interview, Carlson also responded to questions about previous interpretations of his remarks involving religious symbolism and Donald Trump.

“You’ve been talking on your show about whether Trump is the ‘Antichrist,’” Garcia-Navarro said, to which Carlson replied, “I have not said that.”

Pressed further, he clarified, “I don’t know where that comes from, but I know that those words never left my lips because I’m not sure I fully understand what the antichrist is.”

He added that he may have referenced public discussion but did not personally endorse such framing.

Carlson also speculated more broadly about political influence and behavior but emphasized uncertainty in his interpretations, noting he is “not a theologian” and does not claim definitive explanations for the dynamics he described.

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